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Wow, I'm back after a 24 hour heat induced black out hiatis. We are VERY lucky to be back on line as there are millions here with out power. I do have a decent generator system but it was a fuel pig. People for the most part were calm for our area. I had to drive this morning to buy fuel to another area that still had power. The gas lines were miles long. People are driveing hours to buy generator fuel. The stores were mobed on water and batteries immediately yesterday due to the quick news reports and mass speculation of terrorism. There are so many cars abandoned on the road that ran out of fuel it is tough in areas to navigate around them. No traffic lights. My next door neighbors were all nearly killed 10 minutes after the power went out due to someone running a blacked out light at 80 mph. We had to stay up all night and watch for generator theifs. Its not supriseing how fast a laser light bounceing down the driveway will deter someone who wanted to take a 4am look see. I hope all is well for our other members potentially in the black out area. I think Murf, Art White, Cutter and many others might be with out power. I neeed to sell this generator and but a diesel powered one. You could drive right up to the diesel pumps and I was VERY thankfull to have a diesel powered truck. Dave
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Gas goes bad as well. It is just a matter of keeping and rotateing a inventory. My truck and the tractor burn diesel any how. My neighborhood association would not tolerate a tank, honestly I would not want to see one in my yard. Deer camp yes, home no. Remember I live in suburbia not on several acres where I can place it strategicly or landscape around it. I wish I could though as I would go that route if it were reasonably feasable.
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Ken, yes I understand, LPG + not for me ! . Just due to my home location. F-350, yeah you sure got that right friend. That is why I am going to start looking at the diesel generators though. We plan to move a little north to a sub of 2-10 acre lots verses the 90 x 130 lots here. So I want something portable. The Generac models you mentioned are very nice and cost effective. yes I have nat gas. or gas...naturally !
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Nat gas goes down regularly here. Would not be my first choice. LPG was available and all the vendors were open with little to no buisiness, but then no one was in line at the diesel pumps either. The best thing is to be prepared one way or the other. Its really bizare to see a million people caught flat footed and totally unprepared.
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I think maybe your overlooking the small fact that it is the single largest power outage in us history. I could do with out the 24/7 nonsense, but then my tv has this nifty little button !
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I dont know about more black outs. Theres been a Lot of people killed and injured. But I do agree with your point. I doubt we could do much for those who were unprepared as it is their mentality at fault not the system (electrical). I was in line to buy gas at 6 am this morning and thinking to myself about all the conversations we have had on the forum in regards to generators, alarm systems etc. Even talking about it made us more prepared than many of theese people. So many people dont think that the stuff the rest of the world endures can happen to them, Stand at ground zero some day. It will change your perspective. You being those who are un prepared, obviously they were never Boy Scouts.
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If I lived 10 miles north of here that IS the system I would have. They are very nice and the Generacs are a GREAT bargain compared to other "name" brands. In my opinion Home DePut ranks (literally) right down there with Wally World...The Pits !
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Mark H, do you have one of those ? I dont know squat about them. My generac only has about 25 hours on it and I paid around $1300 for it. After this fiasco I am dead sold that Gas is NOT the fuel method to rely on in a panic. Too much demand. It is absolutely wild to see traffic backed up for miles to the gas pumps and 1 truck at the diesel.
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Where did you get the photo ? I can't find any details or specs on the Jd web site.
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It seems that deere has resolvd that problem Tom with the meter. It will vary a lot regionally with the cost of electricians but labor was $500 to install a proper generac 6 panel switch at the breaker box and then make a major run all the way across the house so I could have my plug in location inside my Garage. Parts and switch were another $500. This allows me to set mt generator just out side my garage door when I run it. So I did consider that costly but worth the expense. The JD Generator uses different plugs. I am currently useing a 20' 30 amp cord into a 120/240 volt recepticle. I think the JD is 20 amp. As far as Ideling the tractor for extended periods I personally do not run my gereator 24/7 when the power is out. Maybe 12 on 2-4 hours off. I would certainly do the same with the tractor. My use will be less than 100 hours a year on my tractor so if we can for conversation sake if we use the plug number of 4k hours to rebuild that seems get tossed around here I have roughly 40 years of use in theory. , I know its comeing now ! . So I dont see that in my case the generator will be much of a burden. The tractor is also a heck of a lot quiter than the Generac. I would think this is all relative to how often your power goes out and your "needs". The big power outage here would have been small potatoes if it wouldn't have been 90 degrees out. The biggest problem was people not power. That is my catalyst for switching to Diesel power. Mark H, Thanx for the tip on the generator and the site. It never would have occured to me to click the diamonds. I have contacted my dealer for a price.
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I am a little confused about the shaf measurements. I know The PTO shaft is not the same as the 2210 as I waited for weeks to get a new shaft shipped from Japan when Mine broke. They actually had one in stock for the X series which they had initially thought was the same. Both the X and the 2000 series are limited catagory 1 which as far as I can tell is only relative to lift weight and height. The shafts I have gotten with other stuff I had left the full length and cut myself so I know I got the proper fit due to the iMatch which sets everything a little further back. It will be interesting to see any how. My current genset is 5500 7500 surge. At the time (2000) Generac was the only one rateing their sets which such liberal margins. They now Have changed my model from the 5500XL to the 7500XL and the new 5500 is pretty small. Anyhow I can power about 1/2 my house. No dryer, No Ac. I run The Kitchen, Master Bath, Master Bedroom, Liveing room, Sump Pump and furnace. Initially I thought most power outages would be in ice storms. The opposite has turned out to be the case. I Think The JD one is 10k but that is already more than enough for me. I just dont want to get stuck in those gas lines in a pinch again. It does little good if I cant get fuel.
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I was looking at the Voltmaster brand PTO generators. What I am missing is that none of the gensets I am seeing except the JD seem to have any hitch points. I see some have a small trailer option sort of like you might expect to see with a wood splitter. Do theese operate with the shaft at a angle ? I'm a little puzzled but thats nothing new.
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I think you are right, but certainly not positive that they are a standard shaft in that regards. I am not sure if the differences were interior where the bearings are due to the X series PTO essentially being a bolt on option. The JD genset has 3 pth couplings to lift it, move it etc. I understand what you are saying about leveling and the shaft on the deere unit. I am puzzled about the others. If the NT model or any of that type are on a trailer and you back up to it with a telescopeing shaft how do you get the height correct to run a level shaft ??? Also the NT model says 24 pto hp for maximum out put. I dont need that much out put so my thought process, although often flawed is that 17 pto HP would produce the 7500 Kw I need, although at a higher price. I like the JD unit just trying to understand the mechanics of the other systems.
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most of the stores you mentioned were closed here during the outage. In fact they all were includeing the gas stations. You had to drive N and fight hours of traffic to get fuel. Most of the stations here just outside suburbia do not sell the mini tanks you are reffering to. I did however see a couple of LPG places that appeared to be open but I doubt they were filling w/out power and for safety reasons. Buisinesses that were in the outage area were asked not to open by our wise and all knowing governess.
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Now Murf I gotta say with 50 states plus me I think we got you guys with just a few provential terratories beat all to heaven on the gas bag count ! . Speaking of wind driven electricity Mackinaw city Has incorporated two wind mills on the Bluff over the sraights of Mackinaw. The next time your out running that overpowered dingy murf you just come around the bend for cocktail hour ! Nice Marina in Mackinaw city or on the Island. I'll buy.
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My neighbors recently started driveing a truck. They had asked me about them for the last several years and I guess they finally decided to take the plunge. Right after the lights went out many of the intersections were either dark or gave false signals from some temporary power source for several minutes. Many people through out the Detroit area were killed in auto accidents over the outage which is a topic the news seems to have avoided searching for the sole looter to boost the media hype. Any how they were brodsided in the front quarter panel. Dad has a broken arm in two places, daughter has a broken collar bone, mom has several broken ribs. We were trying to talk over the genset which is not exactly quiet. Sounds like they were all out for a few minutes and dont remember anything. They said the witnesses estimated the other drivers speed at 80 mph and I think he was DOA. I think they are sold on trucks as he said several times if they had been in the car they would all be dead. When the power is out every intersectionis to be treated as a four stop. Most people understand this but I personally saw several drivers blow right through intersections, The trouble was not electricity it was the me first mentality. Again.
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